29th May 2009, 08:07
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Electric shock for government over green car plan
ELECTRIC SHOCK FOR GOVERNMENT OVER GREEN CAR PLAN
As many as a fifth of Britain's 34 million motorists are planning to buy an electric car within the next five years or would consider doing so.
A GfK NOP survey for the RAC Foundation suggests 6.75 million drivers are thinking about buying a vehicle powered solely by batteries.
The poll results should be welcome news for the Department for Transport which last month announced an incentive scheme that would see grants of up to £5,000 being offered to purchasers of electric powered cars from 2011.
But the plans are set to backfire.
The RAC Foundation has discovered that by the Government's own reckoning electric vehicles won't be available on the mass market until at least 2017, leaving millions of potential buyers frustrated.
Commenting on the findings, the director of the RAC Foundation Professor Stephen Glaister said: "What the Government is in danger of doing is putting the cart before the horse. It is actively promoting the purchase of electric vehicles long before there is any chance of manufacturers making them widely available."
"It has gone out of its way to encourage people to make green choices, yet these choices are not yet realistic."
"Even by the Government's own analysis, this form of environmentally-friendly transport will not be on the mass market for another eight years - and even that assumes a major breakthrough in battery technology in the meantime."
"Ministers' thinking on green technology is all over the place. They talk of incentives of up to £5,000 for prospective buyers of electric cars from 2011. Yet at that stage there will be almost nothing in the showroom for people to purchase."
"What's more, the same announcement talked of a mere £20 million being spent on a national charging infrastructure, but only last week the Mayor of London acknowledged that at least £60 million would be needed to provide such a network in the capital alone."
"And all this comes even before you ask how the electricity to power these phantom vehicles will be produced - for the next decade (before new nuclear power stations are built for example) the answer will almost certainly be by burning fossil fuels."
"The RAC Foundation fully supports the introduction of green vehicles. But electric cars are not the short-term solution. What the Government should be doing is improving the road network and encouraging manufacturers to refine existing technology. That means increasing road capacity to cut congestion and CO2 emissions; focussing on producing leaner petrol and diesel engines; and making smaller and lighter cars."
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1st Jul 2009, 09:29
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Re: Electric shock for government over green car plan
The gov will be even more shocked when they loose all the tax revenue how will they make up for such a loss . tax the poor man who can not afford to buy green cars 
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1st Jul 2009, 14:07
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Re: Electric shock for government over green car plan
No the taxman will deem the electricity consumed as fuel and add appropriate fuel duty. Similar to how they try to deal with veg oil
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1st Jul 2009, 20:28
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Re: Electric shock for government over green car plan
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No the taxman will deem the electricity consumed as fuel and add appropriate fuel duty. Similar to how they try to deal with veg oil
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No, it will not be the same as fuel, sorry, they have a whole new tax system just waiting to hit us, they call it carbon tax, and this way they can tax us on everything we do that uses energy. Already businesses are getting a taste of this new tax, which is why you are seeing so many are alreayd trying to install things like wind turbines, sun pipes, insulating new buildings to a higher standard than legislation requires. The basic system will mean you get a certain allowance of carbon credits, you then loose a whole load straight away by your house, depending on how it rates, then you will loose a load on the car etc, no matter what fuel system it uses, just the fuel system will dictate how much you loose...
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29th Oct 2009, 02:45
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Re: Electric shock for government over green car plan
in this case, if the green car will push through does it require to have different fuel pumps and all that?.. How much would the conversion cost?
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30th Oct 2009, 13:45
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Re: Electric shock for government over green car plan
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in this case, if the green car will push through does it require to have different fuel pumps and all that?.. How much would the conversion cost?
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What fuel pumps?
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3rd Nov 2009, 01:47
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Re: Electric shock for government over green car plan
The fuel pumps for the rover. And how much would the modification or the conversion costs?
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4th Nov 2009, 13:18
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Re: Electric shock for government over green car plan
Link removed Mike, mainly as it seems your just trying to spam the forum, the reasobn for thinking this is that if you read the article, it talks about electric motors, and electric motors as far as I know don't have a need for pumps, as electric motors generally don't have fluids flowing around them....
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